Comments on: Examining Hiv-aids Denial http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-denial/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:04:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: CutestPrincess http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-81153 CutestPrincess Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:07:05 +0000 http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-myths/#comment-81153 you stated some good points... very important piece... you stated some good points… very important piece…

]]> By: JK Kristie http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-77187 JK Kristie Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:15:56 +0000 http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-myths/#comment-77187 Very well presented with some facts I didn't realize about the disease. Thank you for this article. Very well presented with some facts I didn’t realize about the disease. Thank you for this article.

]]> By: Sharazad Moore http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-76319 Sharazad Moore Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:48:46 +0000 http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-myths/#comment-76319 Bob, the "virtually" was my wording. It is an unintentional misuse of the word. This link gives a full explanation of the HIV test (claim #4 is specifically about testing) that say how the tests work: www.aegis.com/topics/mdelaney.html The 2600 scientists are signatories on an open letter to the scientific community that has been circulating since 1991. Some of the people included have recanted (Robert Root-Bernstein is one) and some have died. Many of them aren't in a field of study related to HIV. Most of them on the older list www.virusmyth.com/aids/group.htm have no profession listed, but on the current list, they do. www.rethinkingaids.com/quotes/rethinkers.htm From the current list: Luc Belisle, journalist, Lorenzo Beltrame. Avionic Radar System Engineer, Anatole Bihina a novelist, Peter Blum, a hypnotherapist, Giovanni Battista Baratta. Professor of Astronomy Risha Yorke. Playwright It's been nearly 20 years: in that time, they've collected 2600 signatures (this is their worldwide collection) & many of those haven't studied HIV. Bob, the “virtually” was my wording. It is an unintentional misuse of the word.

This link gives a full explanation of the HIV test (claim #4 is specifically about testing) that say how the tests work:
http://www.aegis.com/topics/mdelaney.html

The 2600 scientists are signatories on an open letter to the scientific community that has been circulating since 1991. Some of the people included have recanted (Robert Root-Bernstein is one) and some have died. Many of them aren’t in a field of study related to HIV. Most of them on the older list
http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/group.htm
have no profession listed, but on the current list, they do.
http://www.rethinkingaids.com/quotes/rethinkers.htm

From the current list:
Luc Belisle, journalist,
Lorenzo Beltrame. Avionic Radar System Engineer,
Anatole Bihina a novelist,
Peter Blum, a hypnotherapist,
Giovanni Battista Baratta. Professor of Astronomy
Risha Yorke. Playwright

It’s been nearly 20 years: in that time, they’ve collected 2600 signatures (this is their worldwide collection) & many of those haven’t studied HIV.

]]> By: Bob http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-76223 Bob Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:06:41 +0000 http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-myths/#comment-76223 Very sorry but the first postulate states ALL Cases not virtually all. therefore it fails the first postulate. 2 and 2 nearly equal 5 but it doesn't make it so. Not in science it doesn't. In fact the postulate states "the pathogen must be found in ABUNDANCE" not surprised that bit got skipped over as it must be a bit hard to argue it is found in abundance when it's not even been found? Only the antibody. As for thousands of scientists how about the, at the last count, two and a half thousand scientists and academics that make up "the group for the scientific reappaisal of the hiv/aids hypothesis"? http://rethinkingaids.com/Content/AboutRA/tabid/59/Default.aspx Very sorry but the first postulate states ALL Cases not virtually all. therefore it fails the first postulate. 2 and 2 nearly equal 5 but it doesn’t make it so. Not in science it doesn’t. In fact the postulate states “the pathogen must be found in ABUNDANCE” not surprised that bit got skipped over as it must be a bit hard to argue it is found in abundance when it’s not even been found? Only the antibody.

As for thousands of scientists how about the, at the last count, two and a half thousand scientists and academics that make up “the group for the scientific reappaisal of the hiv/aids hypothesis”?

http://rethinkingaids.com/Content/AboutRA/tabid/59/Default.aspx

]]> By: Daisy Peasblossom http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-75665 Daisy Peasblossom Thu, 27 Aug 2009 05:04:41 +0000 http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-myths/#comment-75665 "fiddling while rome burns" ; "let them eat cake". I'm not familiar with the individual named, but certainly refusing to acknowledge a condition or assigning it to an unaccepted segment of society is a pretty sure-fire way to have an epidemic. “fiddling while rome burns” ; “let them eat cake”. I’m not familiar with the individual named, but certainly refusing to acknowledge a condition or assigning it to an unaccepted segment of society is a pretty sure-fire way to have an epidemic.

]]> By: Sharazad Moore http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-75577 Sharazad Moore Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:30:26 +0000 http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-myths/#comment-75577 I should emphasize that all denialists don’t deny that AIDS exists, some deny that HIV causes AIDS. Perhaps it is better to call President Mbeki a “dissenter” rather than a flat-out “denialist” ( I have made such a clarification), since he has recanted the idea that there is no HIV/AIDS link. However, the former president did publicly question whether HIV and AIDS were linked by saying “How can a virus cause a syndrome?It can’t!” He has repeated this stance in other interviews & speeches saying “A virus can’t cause a syndrome”; that we need to look at “what causes immune deficiency” (apparently, he didn’t accept HIV as a cause). He has also publicly defended AIDS denialists whose work was discredited by the evidence, most notably in a letter to the world leaders. I should emphasize that all denialists don’t deny that AIDS exists, some deny that HIV causes AIDS.

Perhaps it is better to call President Mbeki a “dissenter” rather than a flat-out “denialist” ( I have made such a clarification), since he has recanted the idea that there is no HIV/AIDS link.

However, the former president did publicly question whether HIV and AIDS were linked by saying “How can a virus cause a syndrome?It can’t!”

He has repeated this stance in other interviews & speeches saying “A virus can’t cause a syndrome”; that we need to look at “what causes immune deficiency” (apparently, he didn’t accept HIV as a cause).
He has also publicly defended AIDS denialists whose work was discredited by the evidence, most notably in a letter to the world leaders.

]]> By: Sharazad Moore http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-75569 Sharazad Moore Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:12:29 +0000 http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-myths/#comment-75569 news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/934435.stm www.aegis.com/news/woza/2000/IC000906.html www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71619?oid=82478&sn=Detail tmh.floonet.net/articles/mbeki.shtml news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/934435.stm

http://www.aegis.com/news/woza/2000/IC000906.html

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/politicsweb/en/page71619?oid=82478&sn=Detail

tmh.floonet.net/articles/mbeki.shtml

]]> By: Paterfamilias http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-75351 Paterfamilias Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:47:31 +0000 http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-myths/#comment-75351 Can you have the decency to bring to us anywhere ,anything without interpretation that stipulated that Mr. Thabo Mbeki has denied that there is HIV/AIDS ? Can you have the decency to bring to us anywhere ,anything without interpretation that stipulated that Mr. Thabo Mbeki has denied that there is HIV/AIDS ?

]]> By: mysticdave http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-75185 mysticdave Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:47:45 +0000 http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-myths/#comment-75185 a very good article..... :) a very good article….. :)

]]> By: papaleng http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-denial/comment-page-1/#comment-75175 papaleng Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:50:09 +0000 http://healthmad.com/conditions-and-diseases/examining-hiv-aids-myths/#comment-75175 very interesting and you clearly stated your good points. very interesting and you clearly stated your good points.

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